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	<title>Comments on: An Empty Pantsuit: Hillary&#039;s Thirty Five Years Of Lies (Part One)</title>
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		<title>By: redhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.stuckon-stupid.com/2008/04/02/an-empty-pantsuit-hillarys-thirty-five-years-of-lies-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-3585</link>
		<dc:creator>redhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the LOONS attack each other.. Howard dean sliding into total eclipse.. Lanny Davis spewing saliva in vain attempts to defend Shillery.. Bubba turning RED and Imploding.. Pelosi changing her mind a few more times.. Reid Whining as usual with his lap dog Daffy Durbing... It seems to me that the DAY of the IMPLODING LOONS IS UPON US!!! GO Mac Nail the Idiots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the LOONS attack each other.. Howard dean sliding into total eclipse.. Lanny Davis spewing saliva in vain attempts to defend Shillery.. Bubba turning RED and Imploding.. Pelosi changing her mind a few more times.. Reid Whining as usual with his lap dog Daffy Durbing&#8230; It seems to me that the DAY of the IMPLODING LOONS IS UPON US!!! GO Mac Nail the Idiots!</p>
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		<title>By: anven</title>
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		<dc:creator>anven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was really funny to watch MDR defend the sick pathological Clintons by attacking Obama!! I guess we are doing the right thing in these nut cases duke itout..

Go Mccain!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was really funny to watch MDR defend the sick pathological Clintons by attacking Obama!! I guess we are doing the right thing in these nut cases duke itout..</p>
<p>Go Mccain!!</p>
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		<title>By: redhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>redhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone believe that IF Shillery had actually been Accepted in the USMC as she claimed and had gone through Basic training and IF Barry had Volunteered for Military service which might have given him a sense of DUTY and understanding of Military Pride, that either one would have evolved into a professional LYING MACHINE??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone believe that IF Shillery had actually been Accepted in the USMC as she claimed and had gone through Basic training and IF Barry had Volunteered for Military service which might have given him a sense of DUTY and understanding of Military Pride, that either one would have evolved into a professional LYING MACHINE??????</p>
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		<title>By: redhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.stuckon-stupid.com/2008/04/02/an-empty-pantsuit-hillarys-thirty-five-years-of-lies-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-3586</link>
		<dc:creator>redhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; NO MORE PORK and Earmarks&quot; the two Leftista Trollers are Spewing on a daily basis...No oil Money for me says Barry HO... Ho Ho.. MORE LIES and here are the fats:
Shillery had 232 PORK/Earmarks last year
Barry Ho 52..
Mc Cain   ZERO.. Yes Nada. No way...

As fai as &quot; I do not take Oil company money&quot;.. Barry Boy Quit Lying.. OIL Companies ARE NOT alllowed to make Political Contributiuons.. BUT OIL Company Employees CAN.. and you old pandering Lying TROLL are GETTING Big Bucks that way... Quit your Lies and obfuscations including the Misquotes on the &quot; 100 Tears war&quot;...

TWO real Communist Lying Bastards trying to reinvent the word LIE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; NO MORE PORK and Earmarks&#8221; the two Leftista Trollers are Spewing on a daily basis&#8230;No oil Money for me says Barry HO&#8230; Ho Ho.. MORE LIES and here are the fats:<br />
Shillery had 232 PORK/Earmarks last year<br />
Barry Ho 52..<br />
Mc Cain   ZERO.. Yes Nada. No way&#8230;</p>
<p>As fai as &#8221; I do not take Oil company money&#8221;.. Barry Boy Quit Lying.. OIL Companies ARE NOT alllowed to make Political Contributiuons.. BUT OIL Company Employees CAN.. and you old pandering Lying TROLL are GETTING Big Bucks that way&#8230; Quit your Lies and obfuscations including the Misquotes on the &#8221; 100 Tears war&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>TWO real Communist Lying Bastards trying to reinvent the word LIE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MDR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets look at Obama&#039;s record. A 20 year association with a lying anti american anti semetic racist who said America got what it deserved on 911, invented AIDS to kill black people, refers to the US as the US of KKK, gives Louis Farakahn a lifetime acheivement award and damns America. This is the man who married him, baptized his children and whose sermon Obama took for the title of his book. Then Obama goes out and LIES 6 times about his relationship with him and changes his story everytime his lie is exposed.Maybe Obama believes all that Wright garbage and its why he said he didnt find the remarks &quot;particularly controversial&quot;. After all if Obama is honest then he means what he says. Except 5 days later he is denouncing them.Then he says he was never in the room when Wright made those remarks. Then when thats proved to be a lie he admits that he was. I love how Obamacans try to sweep his lies under the rug like they just never happend. Or can admit that he didnt have the character, the convictions, the courage or the judgment to have walked out 20 years ago or confronted Wright about his lies and racist sermons.Maybe he didnt because the Chicago journalists who covered him right, that he didnt leave because the church was in the district he represented and he stayed for his own political ambition. Or maybe he believes all that garbage. I remember when Bush and McCain got raked over the coals for speaking at Bob Jones University by the same people who are now trying to excuse Obamas&#039; 20 year association and CLOSE relationship with a lying racist anti American hate monger..Obama either believed the garbage that came out of Wright&#039;s mouth ( which is why his wife said she felt proud of america for the first time when Obama won the Iowa caucus) or he didnt have the judgment or the courage to walk out or confront it. Either one disqualifies from even staying overnight in the White House. The one thing I cant stand is hypocrisy. Ive seen it day in and day out from Republicans. Now its evident in Obama and his supporters. All anyone has to know about Obama and how phony he really is, is his silence on Florida and Michgian. In every speech he gives he talks about &quot;voices must be heard&quot;. Except when the voices arent saying what he wants to hear. Its easy to have &quot;principles&quot; when its to your benefit. Its not easy when adhering to your &quot;principles&quot; is not to your benefit,like finding a wallert with $1000 that doesnt belong to you and giving it back. When you throw your principles under a bus the way Obama does, when his &quot;principles&quot; become politically inconvenient, when you lie about NAFTA for the sake of a political position and say one thing in public and then another in private, when you lie about Iraq, when you lie about Wright,you never had principles to begin with and Obama doesnt. If I have to choose between Clinton lying about her trip to Bosnia as first lady, and Obama lying about Wright, Rezko, Nafta, Iraq, how &quot;voices must be heard&quot;, and how he &quot;rejects the old politics of the past&quot; then screams for Clinton;&#039;s tax returns after he gets landslided in Ohio and loses Texas, I&#039;ll take Clinton&#039;s lies every time. Anyway this will all be over soon. Obama isnt electable, he&#039;d get landslided by McCain and every single meteric used by political scientists shows Clinton is the stronger candidate. She will get the nomination and I guarantee when that happens Obamacans will scream &quot;fix&quot; or &quot;racsism&quot; and Obama will whine just like he does every time he loses a primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets look at Obama&#8217;s record. A 20 year association with a lying anti american anti semetic racist who said America got what it deserved on 911, invented AIDS to kill black people, refers to the US as the US of KKK, gives Louis Farakahn a lifetime acheivement award and damns America. This is the man who married him, baptized his children and whose sermon Obama took for the title of his book. Then Obama goes out and LIES 6 times about his relationship with him and changes his story everytime his lie is exposed.Maybe Obama believes all that Wright garbage and its why he said he didnt find the remarks &#8220;particularly controversial&#8221;. After all if Obama is honest then he means what he says. Except 5 days later he is denouncing them.Then he says he was never in the room when Wright made those remarks. Then when thats proved to be a lie he admits that he was. I love how Obamacans try to sweep his lies under the rug like they just never happend. Or can admit that he didnt have the character, the convictions, the courage or the judgment to have walked out 20 years ago or confronted Wright about his lies and racist sermons.Maybe he didnt because the Chicago journalists who covered him right, that he didnt leave because the church was in the district he represented and he stayed for his own political ambition. Or maybe he believes all that garbage. I remember when Bush and McCain got raked over the coals for speaking at Bob Jones University by the same people who are now trying to excuse Obamas&#8217; 20 year association and CLOSE relationship with a lying racist anti American hate monger..Obama either believed the garbage that came out of Wright&#8217;s mouth ( which is why his wife said she felt proud of america for the first time when Obama won the Iowa caucus) or he didnt have the judgment or the courage to walk out or confront it. Either one disqualifies from even staying overnight in the White House. The one thing I cant stand is hypocrisy. Ive seen it day in and day out from Republicans. Now its evident in Obama and his supporters. All anyone has to know about Obama and how phony he really is, is his silence on Florida and Michgian. In every speech he gives he talks about &#8220;voices must be heard&#8221;. Except when the voices arent saying what he wants to hear. Its easy to have &#8220;principles&#8221; when its to your benefit. Its not easy when adhering to your &#8220;principles&#8221; is not to your benefit,like finding a wallert with $1000 that doesnt belong to you and giving it back. When you throw your principles under a bus the way Obama does, when his &#8220;principles&#8221; become politically inconvenient, when you lie about NAFTA for the sake of a political position and say one thing in public and then another in private, when you lie about Iraq, when you lie about Wright,you never had principles to begin with and Obama doesnt. If I have to choose between Clinton lying about her trip to Bosnia as first lady, and Obama lying about Wright, Rezko, Nafta, Iraq, how &#8220;voices must be heard&#8221;, and how he &#8220;rejects the old politics of the past&#8221; then screams for Clinton;&#8217;s tax returns after he gets landslided in Ohio and loses Texas, I&#8217;ll take Clinton&#8217;s lies every time. Anyway this will all be over soon. Obama isnt electable, he&#8217;d get landslided by McCain and every single meteric used by political scientists shows Clinton is the stronger candidate. She will get the nomination and I guarantee when that happens Obamacans will scream &#8220;fix&#8221; or &#8220;racsism&#8221; and Obama will whine just like he does every time he loses a primary.</p>
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		<title>By: MDR</title>
		<link>http://www.stuckon-stupid.com/2008/04/02/an-empty-pantsuit-hillarys-thirty-five-years-of-lies-part-one/comment-page-1/#comment-3590</link>
		<dc:creator>MDR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like most Obama supporters Dinky midwesterner misses the point, sees what she wants to see ( which is why we call it drinking the Kool Aid) and like Obama will dismiss any truth any logic that doesnt fit in with the &quot;master plan&quot;.
First I didnt call the mid west states dinky -- I called their caucuses dinky and they are. One of the most absurd arguments Obamacans like to make is the number of states he &quot;won&quot;. In other words, Obama wins the Kansas caucus with 38,000 votes, Clinton wins California with 2 million and its one for Obama and one for Clinton. The caucuses are absured, totally biased towards Obama&#039;s democgraphic AND as anyone will tell you, are in states that havent gone Democratic in 40 years. As for your absurd fascist argument that 3 million votes shouldnt count in Florida and Michgian because she should have protested the Rules Committee ruling from the beginning: If you want to send out a candidate who is there only because votes werent counted in Florida you should become a Republican. If Obama cant win the nomination fair and square then just too bad. He&#039;s never going out as the nominee by getting in the back door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like most Obama supporters Dinky midwesterner misses the point, sees what she wants to see ( which is why we call it drinking the Kool Aid) and like Obama will dismiss any truth any logic that doesnt fit in with the &#8220;master plan&#8221;.<br />
First I didnt call the mid west states dinky &#8212; I called their caucuses dinky and they are. One of the most absurd arguments Obamacans like to make is the number of states he &#8220;won&#8221;. In other words, Obama wins the Kansas caucus with 38,000 votes, Clinton wins California with 2 million and its one for Obama and one for Clinton. The caucuses are absured, totally biased towards Obama&#8217;s democgraphic AND as anyone will tell you, are in states that havent gone Democratic in 40 years. As for your absurd fascist argument that 3 million votes shouldnt count in Florida and Michgian because she should have protested the Rules Committee ruling from the beginning: If you want to send out a candidate who is there only because votes werent counted in Florida you should become a Republican. If Obama cant win the nomination fair and square then just too bad. He&#8217;s never going out as the nominee by getting in the back door.</p>
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		<title>By: kj</title>
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		<dc:creator>kj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone has forgotten, please recall the Clinton Excuse Machine Defense Protocol:

DENY, DENY and DENY (then proceed through these 7 steps):
1. Who us?
2. Oh, that.
3. Hold on.
4. Yes but.
5. They&#039;re worse.
6. Look at that!
7. Next!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone has forgotten, please recall the Clinton Excuse Machine Defense Protocol:</p>
<p>DENY, DENY and DENY (then proceed through these 7 steps):<br />
1. Who us?<br />
2. Oh, that.<br />
3. Hold on.<br />
4. Yes but.<br />
5. They&#8217;re worse.<br />
6. Look at that!<br />
7. Next!</p>
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		<title>By: anven</title>
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		<dc:creator>anven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us look at the Clinton record - Hiding tax returns in 80&#039;s when she made
10,000% profit in cattle futures (ask cattle farmers how profitable it is!), using Arksansas state troopers to bring in victims, pathological lying, deceiving, possible murder, perjuring oneself even as the chief law enforcement officer, suborning perjury,covering up lying, obstruction of justice, getting impeached, cheating on one&#039;s wife but doing it in the people&#039;s house, during work hours and that too with a subordinate and that too multiple times, opening up motel 1600 PA avenue and converting the White House Lincoln bedroom into a shag house for petty criminals, accepting
illegal contributions to campaigns and legal defense fund ot defend onself from white collar crimes, accepting bribes from everyone to pardon criminals and even allowing brother in law (the famous Rodhams) to accept money for pardons, stealing gifts from the White house while leaving in 2000 and then blaming the poor packing people for it, pardoning Peurto Rican terrorists in lieu of votes in the New York Senate contest in 2000, accepting funds from middle east even as wife was railing against Bush Administrations decisions to  allow the same  middle eastern source to protect our ports, accepting money from dubious dictators and some enemies of America and providing them &quot;Positive&quot; Press, lying about achievements
like involvement in Irish peace process, Bosnian sniper gate, Kosovo, NAFTA..., lying about experience, trashing everyone that comes in the way of fufilling personal ambitions like a poor 16 yr old that was r**** by an adult (was Hillary Clinton&#039;s first case as a defense attorney in Arkansas which she proudly writes about in her book with a little spin), Jennifer Flowers ,Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Kenneth Starr, Barack Obama, Al Gore, Bill Richardson and on and on goes the sins of the Clintons which is singularly unmatched by most politicans not only of the United States but even most third World countries.  Amazing thing is that there are some
idiots who are willing see beyond all of this and still vote for them!! Amazing IQ levels..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us look at the Clinton record &#8211; Hiding tax returns in 80&#8242;s when she made<br />
10,000% profit in cattle futures (ask cattle farmers how profitable it is!), using Arksansas state troopers to bring in victims, pathological lying, deceiving, possible murder, perjuring oneself even as the chief law enforcement officer, suborning perjury,covering up lying, obstruction of justice, getting impeached, cheating on one&#8217;s wife but doing it in the people&#8217;s house, during work hours and that too with a subordinate and that too multiple times, opening up motel 1600 PA avenue and converting the White House Lincoln bedroom into a shag house for petty criminals, accepting<br />
illegal contributions to campaigns and legal defense fund ot defend onself from white collar crimes, accepting bribes from everyone to pardon criminals and even allowing brother in law (the famous Rodhams) to accept money for pardons, stealing gifts from the White house while leaving in 2000 and then blaming the poor packing people for it, pardoning Peurto Rican terrorists in lieu of votes in the New York Senate contest in 2000, accepting funds from middle east even as wife was railing against Bush Administrations decisions to  allow the same  middle eastern source to protect our ports, accepting money from dubious dictators and some enemies of America and providing them &#8220;Positive&#8221; Press, lying about achievements<br />
like involvement in Irish peace process, Bosnian sniper gate, Kosovo, NAFTA&#8230;, lying about experience, trashing everyone that comes in the way of fufilling personal ambitions like a poor 16 yr old that was r**** by an adult (was Hillary Clinton&#8217;s first case as a defense attorney in Arkansas which she proudly writes about in her book with a little spin), Jennifer Flowers ,Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Kenneth Starr, Barack Obama, Al Gore, Bill Richardson and on and on goes the sins of the Clintons which is singularly unmatched by most politicans not only of the United States but even most third World countries.  Amazing thing is that there are some<br />
idiots who are willing see beyond all of this and still vote for them!! Amazing IQ levels..</p>
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		<title>By: redhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>redhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The : soccer &quot; and Volunteer Marine recruit also needs to get a handle on Rocky Balboa on Factual History.. Does the about to be DONE Czarina know that Rocky lost his first fight to a Black man?? .... HELLOOO Get ONE STRAIGHT .. JUST ONE!!
and speaking of the other one... I am wondering what he means by &quot; typical white&quot; man in my case... Let&#039;s see... Worked during HS and College years, still found time for Sports, served in the Military as a volunteer after college feeling a sense of cbligation to the Country... Got up everyday to be at work, raised Two children with my wife ,paid for their education,  even during hard times never looked for BIG NANNY Hand outs.. saved, and now I am Happily retired
NOW my question is.. What Is a typical Black person eh Barry HO????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The : soccer &#8221; and Volunteer Marine recruit also needs to get a handle on Rocky Balboa on Factual History.. Does the about to be DONE Czarina know that Rocky lost his first fight to a Black man?? &#8230;. HELLOOO Get ONE STRAIGHT .. JUST ONE!!<br />
and speaking of the other one&#8230; I am wondering what he means by &#8221; typical white&#8221; man in my case&#8230; Let&#8217;s see&#8230; Worked during HS and College years, still found time for Sports, served in the Military as a volunteer after college feeling a sense of cbligation to the Country&#8230; Got up everyday to be at work, raised Two children with my wife ,paid for their education,  even during hard times never looked for BIG NANNY Hand outs.. saved, and now I am Happily retired<br />
NOW my question is.. What Is a typical Black person eh Barry HO????</p>
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		<title>By: casper</title>
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		<dc:creator>casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O ha ha!!  Isn&#039;t that the truth  -- the asbestos thing!   Hey, most of the ultra liberal Hillary defenders are mired in willful ignorance.  I can&#039;t help but wonder:  how is it possible to not have an instinctual distrust of all things Hillary?  And Obama: I&#039;m not sure you can&#039;t trust him to be what he is; I just don&#039;t see why anyone would want too.  The excessive progressivism of these bragging liberals should make any American who has even an inkling of individualism, quake in his/her soul.  WHat is it that you seek when you so rabidly adhere to the left?  I frankly cannot fathom it.  Protection from reality?  Safety for all, in the all-powerful embrace of every growing government?  Comon cowardly libs, admit it:  you are afraid to stand alone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O ha ha!!  Isn&#8217;t that the truth  &#8212; the asbestos thing!   Hey, most of the ultra liberal Hillary defenders are mired in willful ignorance.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder:  how is it possible to not have an instinctual distrust of all things Hillary?  And Obama: I&#8217;m not sure you can&#8217;t trust him to be what he is; I just don&#8217;t see why anyone would want too.  The excessive progressivism of these bragging liberals should make any American who has even an inkling of individualism, quake in his/her soul.  WHat is it that you seek when you so rabidly adhere to the left?  I frankly cannot fathom it.  Protection from reality?  Safety for all, in the all-powerful embrace of every growing government?  Comon cowardly libs, admit it:  you are afraid to stand alone&#8230;</p>
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