Jan
03
2008

by George

Who Would You Vote for In The New Hampshire Primary?

If you were eligible to vote in the New Hampshire primary who would your candidate be?

Republican

Sorry, there are no polls available at the moment.

Democrat

Sorry, there are no polls available at the moment.

Feel Free to comment on your vote.  Why is your candidate the best or the opposition the poorest choice? 

(Dodd and Biden have withdrawn from the NH Primary and have been eliminated from the poll)

t/b: Michelle Malkin, Hot Air, Sister Toldjah, Captain’s Quarters

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  • Joanne Van Fossen says:

    I feel that the polls are being boosted for certain candidates by not true registered voters or by activists of the opposing party, especially the democrats. Ron Paul does not represent the majority of “CONSERVATIVE” voters, rep or dem.

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  • jhendon says:

    I see a rage’n runaway truck on the road and Obama is at the wheel. Look out everyone, here comes the new “Captian America”!….and I’m not even a Democrat.

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  • Paul Katz says:

    I think the media has made Iowa and New Hampshire much too important. Neither state is really repressentative of modern day America. Moreover, too few of the populace actually participates skewing results. And in the end its all about who gets the money. We need to find a better way.

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  • Pawdit2004 says:

    If Hillary comes to Pennslyvania she will loose just like in Iowa. She is finished. Nobody really cares for smug, self obsessed, political fools.

    Hillary is viewed as anti-Bush because her Left-Wing Base wants it to be so, just for the hatred of Bush.

    Barack Obama has the view that he disagrees with Bush Policy not because of hate but because of a difference of opinion, which is acceptable to most people. When Barack Obama talks about change and getting things done you can tell he means it from the heart. Just like, when you hear a great singer you can tell when they are singing from the heart or just singing the song.

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  • Myra says:

    Anyone planning to vote for Barack Obama should first go to http://www.amconmag.com and read Steve Sailer’s article “Obama’s Identity Crisis.” Obama doesn’t seem to think very highly of his “white” half.

    VOTE FOR FRED THOMPSON…THE ONLY CONSISTENT CONSERVATIVE!!!

    Check out the reputation of Huckabee’s campaign guy, Rollins.

    BTW webmaster, I tried to email this article, but error message said no friends names entered and number of friends email addresses didn’t match number of friends. Not true, so what’s up with that?

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  • Myra says:

    Webmaster..never mind. I entered the same info again and this time it worked.

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  • Cameron says:

    Huckabee is an assured defeat against Obama just look at the two of them who is going to appeal. I heard Obama
    s speech and then Huckabees speech we are dead as a party for the next eight years if we don’t stop this guy.

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  • Stephanie says:

    I agree Cameron. If the GOP is ignorant enough of Huckaliar’s record while governor and choose to remain that way, we WILL have 8 years of a Democrat president and we will have nobody to blame but ourselves. Well, those of us who are smart enough to vote for someone like Fred Thompson won’t be to blame, but the Huckster’s supporters sure will.

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  • Gomez says:

    Thank God Huckabee got the “Iowa Kiss of Death”. Remember when Bob Dole won Iowa by just of 20% ahead of Ronald Reagan. This caused all the “spotlights of scrutiny” to shine on Bob Dole. When conservatives saw Dole in the light they realized he was not at all what he claimed to be. Reagan went on to win the Presidency with a 48 state landslide.

    Check the history in Iowa. Few, very few, that win the Iowa Republican caucus by a hefty margin go on to win the Presidency (I think it’s a Hoover thing). They instead have a traditional nose dive to oblivion.

    For a complete view of the “real Mike Huckabee” visit http://www.pinnaclecascade.com/huckabee.html All underlined text are links to news articles and blogs. Watch the videos – Huck says it all with his own mouth. Is Mike Huckabee really a Christian?

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  • Gomez says:

    Romney’s loss last night is the second place, “Iowa Kiss of Death”. It usually the candidate that is expected to win – come in at 1st place. It is almost as bad as being the “also ran”.

    Romney has spent over $100,000,000.00 to date on his campaign. A very large portion out of his own pocket. In the past month Romney spent just over $10,000,000.00 in Iowa. And came in second. Conservatives say, “If he can’t win it with all the money he has spent he either is unable to get his message out or his message is not conducive to ‘Conservatism’”.

    Romney’s problem is that he does not know what he stands for – he has flip-flopped on every issue depending on which way the wind is blowing. For a clear and concise view of Romney, visit http://www.pinnaclecascade.com/romney.html

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  • Gomez says:

    If you look at the final numbers, rather than the percentage, John McCain came in fourth behind Fred Thompson at 3rd place. McCain can win in the more liberal Northeast and Arizona. But that is about it. Mainstream Republican Conservatives know that John McCain is actually a left-wing big government Democrat. Take a closer look at open borders, illegal alien amnesty (McCain-Kennedy), anti 1st Amendment (McCain-Feingold) McCain at http://www.pinnaclecascade.com/mccain.html

    That leaves the actual 3rd place finisher, Fred Thompson. He is in the very same spot Ronald Reagan was in. First and second place have been explained. After the light of scrutiny kills the first place finisher’s campaign, and the overspending 2nd place finisher who seems to spend “at all costs to get what he wants” (doesn’t look very conservative, hmmm), it allows people to take a look at a more consistent “true Conservative” – Fred Thompson. If no amnesty to illegals, fix the border, lowered and simplified taxes, less government, pro 2nd Amendment, strong defense sounds like good wholesome conservative values then visit http://www.pinnaclecascade.com/index.html

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  • Marv says:

    Fred Thompson; consistent conservative, speaks from the heart and means what he says. The only candidate that actually talks about change, i.e., Social Security and tax reform. The others promise change without really saying what they want to change – or how.

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  • mark colegrove says:

    his message about change and medical insurance for everyone is real and needed. west virginia for edwards.

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  • gth says:

    Obama and Huckaberry will lose steam fast now.

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  • Jay Boy says:

    We have to consider experience at all cost to get us out of our current mess, Hillary is by far the most experienced. Obama has a great influence, but capability is the real question,,, I would really like to see either one of these folks as Prez or Vice Prez…would make a magnificent team!

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  • Stephanie says:

    Hitlery or Obama would be a great President?? Please! They’d turn this country into a socialist nanny state. Same with Edwards. The truth is that all of the Democrats are alike. Big government, high tax, spend more than the Republicans have, take away freedom from everyone socialists. The same could be said of Huckananny as well.

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  • Liz says:

    Obama means change? What change? Just to say change for change’s sake means NOTHING. Can any of you supporters of this person state any ONE positive thing that he has done…or plans to do? No. He has no idea, just a nice black/white smile. Funny that everyone likes to discuss this as a matter of race….I thought we were all supposed to be color blind, yet the liberals keep saying “oh…look at us…I guess we DO have the guts to vote for a black person” Give me a break.

    I don’t care if the person is purple or orange or yellow – but HE (and I guess we can include Hill-Bill in that) BETTER DAMN SURE be able to LEAD this country and stop cow-towing to the flipping media.

    FRed Thompson is the ONLY MAN who can LEAD this country.

    We don’t need “young” for the sake of young. We’re not a bunch of school kids. He brought out all the young voters in Iowa. Are you kidding me? Getting Oprah to hug you and doing a stick dance with DiGeneres doesn’t make you presidential. Get it? This is serious business and those of you who want to stick your head in the sand and ignore what is going on around us and who hate this country, feel free to leave; and leave the rest of us alone.

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  • Frank Arden says:

    Fred Thompson has strong support among conservatives here in Georgia (and South Carolina) but it seems even “Fair and Balanced” Fox wants to ice him over before we get a chance to have our say in this business. Could the Neocons want Rudy so badly that they would poison the stream for a true conservative as Thompson?

    Rudy is all Neoconned up with the old liberal New York intellectual crowd starting with Norman Podhoretz (who I have always admired for “Breaking Ranks”) and Heritage Foundation folks. These are indeed good people but I think they fear their influence would be modified by a president with deep conservative principles.

    Huck reminds me too much of the Peanut Brigade of ‘76. Mitt is enthusiastic about his new found sobriety but he hasn’t been “on the wagon” long enough. Could relapse, you know. McCain is a gift to this nation but but he reminds me of Feingold and Teddy. And Rudy reminds me of, well, of Rudy.

    Fred has conservative gravitas that will take social radicals, tax and spend redistributionists, and “blame America first” cowards to the woodshed in November.

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  • Nikki says:

    Huckabee has shown himself to be really manipulative and dishonest with his 1) ridiculous statement (posed as a question) with the reporter about the beliefs of Mormans, 2) his “I won’t go negative” claim in regard to ads,… but only in Iowa?? SC, that’s a different story according to his own campaign (Ed Rollins), so it wasn’t a decision based on principals, it was a decision to appeal to Iowa voters, specifically… and 3) his negative ad against Romney that he ‘doesn’t approve of’ and it’s ‘not his style, BUT, he’ll show it to a room full of the media and get the ad run over and over again, for FREE! Brilliant, dishonest and pathetic. (I, at first, liked and was leaning toward supporting Huckabee – that’s embarassing)
    I’m a Christian, but Huckabee’s in for some huge disappointment now that this is moving on to other states that aren’t going to be nearly as supportive of his claim of some type of superiority because of his religion. Let’s keep religion OUT of this. We’re not electing a pastor! He’s far too liberal and forgiving (1,033 pardons as Gov., including pardoning 12 convicted murderers! That’s UNACCEPTABLE!) and he’s not strong enough to be the leader of this great Nation.
    McCain’s too OLD, he really is. He’s also too liberal. Giuliani would be my second choice. Thompson isn’t going to get enough support to be the nominee. No question about that. I love where Thompson stands on the issues, but honestly, he’s… well, I can’t type what he is when it comes to personality. (jerk, arrogant, sarcastic beyond belief)
    The dems, they’re ALL dangerous and all of them would turn this country to socialism. Obama, he’s very charismatic, Yes!… but WHAT HAS HE EVER DONE? Hillary is sickening. To go into everything that’s wrong with her would take all day and night.

    Romney for President. Definitely.

    - Nikki, Colorado

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  • Chris says:

    Not only am I VOTING for FRED THOMPSON, I sent him $100 and spent another $50 on goodies from his website.

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  • Liz says:

    Glaringly OBVIOUS the “pundits” are silent on FRed – AGAIN. What a bunch of hypocrites. Fair and balanced, my a##.

    I’m not necessarily a Romny fan (he’d be my 2nd choice) – but I did like how he stuck it to McCain on amnesty (by the way – shouldn’t he be sitting with the Dems instead of the Republicans? What a suck up – I thought he and Obama were going to start french kissing)…asked the guy THREE TIMES if the illegals get to stay here whilest paying their fines, learning English, blah blah blah. Never did answer. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmm.

    How McCain thinks (we all know he doesn’t really believe it I’m sure) that the Government can moniter and administer his (amnesty) program is beyond belief. I mean, don’t all those libs claim all the illegals “in the shadows”. How in the world does he plan to pull that off? And by the way – THEY’RE NOT IN THE SHADOWS…they’re at the MVA, they’re at the food bank, they’re at the emergency room, they’re wherever the government is already supporting them. Yeah yeah yeah – we need them to pick vegetables. Pahhleeze. For every dollar they put into the system, they cost TEN, maybe more. Wake up people.

    Now, excuse me as I’m heading over to http://www.fred08.com website to see what is REALLY happening this morning.

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  • Robbie says:

    I’m with Fred. He has the best positions on the most important issues, and he is the true conservative. He also has a 100% pro-life voting record. More than that, Fred is the person who I think can best handle the many looming problems facing our nation: the entitlement bankruptcy, the burdensome debt (which is also a national security issue), immigration, economic growth, energy independence, religious conviction, the list goes on.

    Visit his website to see for yourself: Fred08.com.

    But, more than that, I think Fred can best protect the future for my children. I will a father for the first time in June. I pray Fred wins.

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  • cyberdog says:

    It is good to see that the reputation that the Clintons created for themselves is catching up to them. Hubris and sanctimonious phony politics becomes too hard to maintain for such a long period of time. Both of them will go down in history unfavorably.

    Don’t go away mad Hillary, just go away.

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  • jurnei says:

    Difficult to participate in your poll as you didn’t list all the democratic candidates. I would vote for Dennis Kucinich without a moments hesitation. It comes closest to true democratic principles. The other democratic candidates appear more republican to me, certainly Hillary is not too far from Bush.

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  • Liz says:

    Yes…of course you would. Dennis is a GREAT leader, uh…if you are a crazy person.

    We can all visualize it now, Ahmadinejad on one side of the “negotiating” table and our cartoon “leader” Dennis the menace on the other…wow – how impressive. Uh…not so much.

    Go Conservativism (that’s NOT spelled S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M for those of you who don’t read).

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  • Bob says:

    I love those that try to reduce the importance of the Iowa Caucus. First they say it is such a small sampling. However, have you ever looked at the actual number of people questioned in a poll? Polls talk to samplings as low as 500 people. In Iowa, even the Republican Caucus saw almost 100,000 for their ’straw poll’. The Democrats fielded over 225,000 people, who had to face their neighbors face to face, discuss the candidates and their issues, and spend up to two hours deciding. That’s a much bigger commitment than watching TV ads and going to a voting booth for a total time commitment of maybe 30 minutes, including travel. Personally, I think the Democratic Caucus has it right.

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  • Bob says:

    I thought this RCP website was a legitimate neutral website. I should have been tipped off by the title. Every time conservative media comes up with a slogan or name, it tries to come up with something that sounds ‘neutral’ or ‘ethical’, when the substance is always clearly to the contrary. Witness, Farce News as ‘fair and balanced’, the obvious propaganda mouthpiece of the corrupt White House. So it shouldn’t have surprised me, that ‘Real Clear’ was just another attempt at hiding the actual. So I got fooled, but I’m not going to leave unless I’m kicked off. Because, as my wise mother said, a paraphrase of someone I can’t recall, ‘keep your friends close and your enemies closer’. And believe me, websites such as these and all other propaganda instruments of the Right are truly the enemies to this great country. I will continue to fight for America against these people until my last breath. Your dishonestly, ignorance, bigotry, and hypocrisy will not reign. God will truly see to that.

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  • jurnei says:

    Still stuck on stupid here. Personal attacks and using bad pictures-more republican garbage, that’s why folks are sick of this and will vote much differently in this election. Thank goodness.

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  • Stephanie says:

    Yes, you ARE still stuck on stupid. If one of the Dem socialists gets elected, this country will be over and so will our freedom.

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  • Stephanie says:

    Bob, the right is not what is wrong with this country. The LEFT is what is wrong with this country. Let’s see….which party is it that advocates for the killing of unborn children all in the name of “choice”? Which party is it that says we can define marriage any way we want to just so people can spread their perverse lifestyle? Which party is it that is always espousing class warfare and wants the middle class to suffer? Which party is it that wants to cut and run from Iraq even though we are winning and kicking terrorist ass, even though the media refuses to report this? Which party is anti-Capitalist and wants this great country to become one great big nanny state? Answer: the Democrat party, that’s who! So before you start pointing fingers, remember that there are 4 more pointing back at you when you do.

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  • Bob says:

    Stephanie,
    You can’t see past your Farce News talking points can you? Making abortion illegal, won’t stop it, it will only force it back to the 70s when the rich got them out of country, and the poor died from the operations in back alleys. It’s just another form of oppressing the poor. Gay marriage is NOT a perverse lifestyle, that would be a religious opinion that has no place in a government that was formed to separate the Church and State. Asking for equal opportunity, and not allowing oppression of the poor by the wealthy is NOT class warfare. It is, in fact, what Jesus preached. You can’t Cut and Run (old talking point) in a war you’ve already lost. Democrats are not anti-Capitalist, they are anti-unbridled Capitalism. Take a trip to some of the European countries that are way ahead of America on social and economic issues, before you simply repeat the Neo-Con talking points like the lemmings you are.
    IMHO

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  • Liz says:

    Uh…actually gay marriage – or any type of gay activity is actually perverse as the Bible states. Funny how you libs use the Bible when it works for you, but do your best to ban it from every place on the planet.

    And by the way – you are wrong about the government being formed to separate church and state. That is not part of the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, nor the Bill of Rights (well, cuz then it would be a ‘right’ – see, cuz it’s a right given to you by the Bill of…never mind – you libs hate that stuff).

    It is not part of ANY of our founding documents – yet you people and those at Sharpton’s house just LOVE to say “hey – you can’t say “God” in a school. Why – that is against the Constitution. I’m going to sue you for trampling on MY rights”. What a bunch of crap.

    What about MY rights? I can say God anytime I want and you can’t stop me – well, until of course, the lib congressman shamefully and under the pretense of protecting the “minority classes and religions” stiffle ME (see above Bill of Rights – well, you will actually have to READ it).

    The phrase “separation of church and state”, is from an 1802 letter by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists. Do your freaking homework. You libs took this sentence and TWISTED it so my kid can’t even have a freaking CHRISTMAS tree in his school. Hey – thanks for the free speach. I guess that only works for SOME of us, right – Bob?

    And by the way, we have not lost the war. We are winning it even though your lib friends cut finance to our troops while claiming to support them. Why, even several of your left friends have even admitted to it, in print, and on film. So why don’t you catch up already.

    Yes – and we should ALL be equal. We should all be winners cuz there ARE no losers, right Bob? You know, do away with class warfar? Everyone should have the same amount of money, the same amount of stuff, the same amount of clout and influence – no matter how much effort they put out – or rather, DON’t put out, right – Bob?

    Geez, what are you – stuck in Logan’s Run? It was a movie about everyone being the same unless they were imperfect and then the government….well…
    never mind. The guy who ached for freedome got loose and ran away and that would not be an ending you would likely favor.

    Let’s see, Bob…if all the doctors get paid the same amount of say, a janitor – that’s okay with you, right? You know why Capitalism works, Bob (sorry, dumb question)….it WORKS because it’s a system that creates C-O-M-P-E-T-I-T-I-O-N. Thaaaaaat’s correct. That word means…it creates inside someone the passion to do their BEST because your BEST is what gets rewarded. I’ve kept it simple so even you should be able to understand.

    So, if in 10 or 20 years, someone doesn’t have to go to school for umpteen years to become a top notch specialist in medicine but instead could be a janitor and receive the same amount of pay…what do you think the majority of people are going to do, Bob? Where’s the incentive, Bob?

    If everyone gets the same amount of pay, and benefits, same size house, and therefore, there is no incentive to be any better than the guy next to him – what makes you believe there will be a sufficient number of people to excel, Bob? What is going to happen to all the specialists, Bob? What is going to happen to those who are committed to coming up with a better invention than the one currently available, Bob?

    Do you think that because everyone is no longer stressed because they don’t have to work hard, or work at all, that all the sickness and disease will go away? No? No, of course you wouldn’t believe that, because that would be, well, insane.

    So…if there are still people that get sick, but no one with the incentive to try and cure them, or to try and come up with a better medicine to try and decrease their pain; what then, Bob? Who will be the neurologist, the astrologist, the rocket scientist, the surgeon, the nurse, the inventor, the lawyer?

    What’s that, Bob? I didn’t hear you. Answer: NO ONE. And that’s not a freaking talking point. It’s called r-e-a-l-i-t-y (look it up).

    So….if you, and those like you, hate this country so much, and all the other countries are soooo much better than America…I can’t for the life of me figure out why don’t you just freaking GO already?! Go live in Europe or France where their health system is so wonderful (oh, and by the way – since you seem to be a bit behind the times…you may want to research that first because they are now realizing what a crock of horse crap socialized medicine is – which is why their sick people come HERE for good care). Better yet, how about going south to Mexico. After all, there’s probably plenty of land down there you could buy – cuz THEY’RE ALL COMING HERE. Hmmm…that must be because we suck so bad, right Bob?

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  • Stephanie says:

    Liz,
    Thanks for the history and Constitutional lesson for the libs. The way history is taught in school these days, thanks to the socialists at the NEA, kids are not taught this stuff in school. I was homeschooled so I KNOW that I have a better education than a lot of public school educated kids.

    And Bob, you reall do need to stop looking at the websites like Daily Kooks and the Huffington Post. They really are melting your brain, what little of it there is. Yes, the Democrats are anti-Capitalist. Why else do you think they want to, in the words of Hitlery, “take the profits” of big corporations? It’s called wealth redistibution. They think it’s unfair is someone is richer than someone else. Well if people that aren’t rich want to be rich, they can do like everybody else has done and get off their butt and actually work towards that goal and not have the taxpayers pay their way. THAT is unfair. And as far as European countries, you REALLY have no clue what you’re talking about. Countries like France and Germany have unemployment rates of 11 and 12 percent and socialized healthcare. If the Dems had their way, that’s the kind of country they’d turn the US into and that is something that we as a country cannot afford. Go read the Constitution and actually get a clue to reality, dolt!

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  • Bob says:

    Liz,
    Another Classic, ‘wer’re the victims’ rant from the right. Classic dirty debate ’straw man’ debating tactics, you must be practicing for Farce News. OK, I’ll take you point by point.
    Those that are anti-gay are almost always homophobic, don’t understand these people, don’t want to understand these people, and always use the Bible to substantiate the bigotry. Go look up the Hebrew versions of the Bible where the quotes used to rationalize your hatred have been distorted through translation. Jesus would never have said anything against gays and would have embraced them. That’s easy to tell from reading his works.

    Separation of Church and State was a hallmark of the framers whether it was stated clearly or not in the early documents. All rulings on constitutional law have upheld that separation. And with good reason. Or why are we trying to prevent a Sunni state in Iraq. Wake up, if it isn’t good in Iraq, why would it be good here, jeez.

    Sure you can say God anytime you want, but you can’t proselytize in a public classroom. You have private schools for that. You are NOT the victims in America!!! Just because you can’t hang the 10 commandments in the Courthouse doesn’t mean you’re the victim. Come on! How would you like it if you had to swear in with YOUR hand on the KORAN?

    What you don’t understand about universal health care is that those that ‘work the system’ for free health care would actually have to pay in, if part of their income or sales tax was put towards it. You’re an idiot to believe we don’t have it now. And as far as the competition thing, the last six years have marked the greatest profits for the Medical Industry with the least amount of new cures. So much for the philanthropy of the medical industry, particularly Big Pharma. That is unbridled capitalism that actually discourages competition. Get a clue.

    No one is saying everyone should get equal pay or healthcare, that’s the straw man tactic. But to bridge the gap would be the ‘Christian’ thing to do, or are you one of those Christian’s that doesn’t believe in lifting your brother up or being responsible for the downtrodden?

    Finally, the final Farce News tactic of love it or leave it. Actually, I find it my responsibility to stay and make it better. And when I see good ideas working over seas, I say let’s try them here. Look at the use of Nuclear Energy over in France, a huge success that America is just finally realizing should have done years ago. Why didn’t it? Huge lobbyists for the coal industry paying off those ‘good’ Republicans to prevent that.

    You have been deceived by the party you claim loyalty to, and will now be and probably always will be, too little to every admit it. Such is the hold the neo-Cons have over their lemmings. Your fervent beliefs can not be turned by justice, equality, charity, etc, because you would have to admit you were wrong. And let’s face it, when has Dubya admitted he was wrong, your great hero.

    Just unbelievable they have been able to create people like you using the same tactics past corrupt governments practiced and got away with until they fell.

    Well I’m not going to sit by and allow that to happen if I can, and if by responding to your rant it helps just a little, well……I will.

    Good nigh and good luck.

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  • jurnei says:

    I have tried twice today to end emails coming from this site. I can’t even stand to think there are folks as stupid as “Liz” in this country that do nothing, read nothing, but sit on their couch with the channel changer thinking they know something. How truly pitiful. I can’t stand the ignorance. It’s just folks like this that don’t get to see what happens to the unwanted children in this country, not to mention health care for them, which is truly the most minute problem they could ever care about.

    Personally think there are only two types of folks that could be talking like “Liz”, either those with an educaiton that are priviledged and fleecing the middle class, or those that have had no education and can’t read research to see what is truly behind what is going on.

    Seems like everything for them has to do with “right to torture” and they are blind to what is happening to the United States. I’m sure this person has never traveled through out the world to be able to look back at what is happening here.

    Please be sure to take my information off this list. I do not want to have this stupidity delivered to my email account any longer.

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  • Bob says:

    Jurnei,
    I ask that you do NOT leave this site right away. While it is teaming with misguided, self-proclaimed neo-Cons that think theirs is the the virtuous cause, I’m not leaving and would like to hear the lucid side of sanity once in awhile. Actually I have some pity for these souls because they have been recruited and used by the right and need to hear that until they realize it. The mouthpieces of the far Right actually tell these people to not listen to any arguments against their diatribes for fear that they will lose their allegiance, which is what they depend on for ratings and influence. The O’Rielly’s and Limbaugh’s have made millions on these people and they’re not about to stop. So, in most cases, our appeals to their supporters’ consciences may be the only other side they may ever hear. The far Right has demonized all neutral news organizations as ‘liberal’ for the same reason. So don’t quit yet. Keep trying, it’s working. The numbers of duped believers has dropped dramatically in the last three years and is diminishing. America has gone from 45% of this type of support to less than 23%. People are waking up and challenging the lies and distortions that have kept them under this haze. There will always be some people that don’t have the virtue to ever admit their mistakes, but we can help minimize that. And that’s why I log on and defend the real America and not this made up one that supports all the bad things in America as virtuous. IMHO

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  • Stephanie says:

    Bob and Jurnei,
    I can’t even think that there are people as stupid as the two of you in this country who are duped by the likes of the Daily Kooks, MoveOn.org, and the like. You haven’t a shred of common sense and all you can do is repeat the same, tired DNC talking points that echo the sentiments of European socialism. This country would be better off without people like the two of you in it.

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  • Stephanie says:

    Jurnei,
    You are REALLY a moron. Just because someone hasn’t traveled around the world doesn’t mean they are ignorant of world affairs. And conversely, just because someone has traveled around the world doesn’t make them an expert on world affairs. Take yourself for example. From your statements, you are obviously well-traveled but are still ignorantly clueless.

    And in regards to torture, if that’s what we have to do to protect ourselves from another terrorist attack, I say threaten the terrorists within an inch of their lives until they talk! That’s nothing compared to what happened to over 3000 people on September 11, 2001. This is something you Demo Commies refuse to acknowledge.

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  • Liz says:

    Thanks for the props Stephanie and back at you.

    Well…if Bob/jurnie WERE still getting these emails, I would tell them this:

    You don’t know me. I am neither entitled, nor do I come from wealth. I am a single mom and have worked my ass off to support myself, my son, my disabled mom and three dogs I adopted from Rescue. So kiss my crapper you pompus ass. Just like the libs to go straight to the personal attacks with NO facts. But I suppose they are accustomed to that.

    You guys don’t give a damn about the little guy. It is incredibly more humane to teach someone how to take care of themselves rather than provide them handouts. If all you do is create social programs and handouts; they will never bother to do for themselves. If I’d signed up for the Welfare Line – I would be NOWHERE today.

    Since you look down your nose at me for not being a world traveler – that means of course you must be. It’s been awhile since I’ve checked because I WORK; but the last time I did check, traveling takes money – so take off your hypocrite boots.

    I suppose you guys hate Mitt Romney right? He’s a rich guy. Uh…because he built companies from nothing. You know, the American dream which CREATES JOBS. Get it? Now Kerry on the other hand (likely your hero) married into a catsup fortune, so-to-speak. Then there are the Clintons who steal money, hide money, lie and cheat (well…that all depends on what the definition of “is”, is. Right?) Hmmm. Weird – it’s almost like you lefties are hypocrites.

    When you speak of cronies in the beltway – don’t forget your side! Remember Sandy Berger just borrowing some ORIGINAL documents from the National Library. I’m sure he was borrowing them…right…sticking them into his socks and hiding them at a construction site, you know – so he could go retrieve them later and bring them back…uh…yeah right. So remember the knife cuts both ways.

    Yes…these are all talking points that are pumped into my brain from the right…right? This stuff is all just made up. No facts. The court records aren’t really facts – or ARE they? How weird.

    As for energy, we’d LOVE to build more nuclear plants and oil refineries – but your NIMBYs prevent it. Poor killer Kennedy who doesn’t want wind power appointments blocking his precious view. Your people create so many restrictions it makes it IMPOSSIBLE and cost prohibitive to build ANYTHING that would make us more independent in this arena. Get over yourselves.

    I am not a Bible thumper and I don’t need to scream GOD and impose my belief of right and wrong onto others. Frankly, I don’t give a damn what you people do; but speaking about considering putting your hand on the KORAN – YOU better be the one thinking about that because you would rather give our enemies 3 square then pour a little water on their face to SAVE AMERICAN LIVES and they would like nothing more than to say, “door #1 swear to uphold the KORAN; or door #2 have your head severed from your body. So…good luck with that.

    And if you’re so tired of getting emails from this site – follow the freaking instructions (or do you need someone to do it FOR you?).

    Yes….keep trying junei…you guys go on ahead and keep trying to convince yourselves that WE are the ones who are not educated. Meanwhile – if you have a couple of minutes of dead time – read some American history. You may trip upon some FACTS.

    Oh and by the way…you also may want to brush up on your spelling and grammar before you tell someone ELSE they are stupid or ignorant(sentence 1 in para 2 of your 11:19 posting).

    Oh, that’s right – you aren’t posting here anymore. What a shame, no really.

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  • Bob says:

    Looks like Jurnei may have left the fray after all. Maybe he’ll leave the country too, as advised by the wonderful people on the right here.

    Once again, personal attacks, assumptions on who I might be, and then attack the straw man made up of those assumptions. Just what Rush and Bill O’Really do every day to distort the facts and feed you people the ammo you need to make these vicious and angry attacks. How do I know? Because if you were to read some history books and not simply believe the revisionist ramblings from these guys on TV or the radio, you would receive a revelation. These guys are liars. They are paid political liars, and you are dupes to not only believe them, but then repeat their lies.

    You have nothing in common with these people except what they have fed you. You can’t possibly believe that all Right Wingers earned what they have through hard work. That’s pure nonsense. Most of them were born into their wealth and have done nothing but influence policy and cheat to increase their wealth. That doesn’t sound like you at all. If you have worked your ass off, as you say, to get by, you can thank THOSE guys for your hardships!! They are the ones that are spending our country into oblivion for years to come. They are the ones that protect CEOs from the consequences of raiding retirement funds. They are the ones that keep Big Oil in control of pricing that gouges your paycheck every week. They are the ones that tell you they give you a tax cut of $600, and then take it back and more through predatory pricing on medicine, healthcare, cable TV, etc. the list goes on. They will make it so you won’t be able to afford your own house in the future.

    You are slaves to the same people you say are your heroes. You’re being played!!

    By a vast majority, people who have made a fortune by their own hard work, are compassionate Democrats, Libertarians, even old Republicans, but NOT the new Republicans. Myself, I don’t even consider myself a Democrat. I’m a Rockefeller Republican, whose party has been hijacked by a bunch of thieves, liars, and warhawks that, through a careful, calculated, misinformation stream over many years, has been able to build a coalition of the rich and greedy with the misinformed, angry, uneducated masses, that have accepted they are the victims of the same people that have been trying to help them.

    Well, you can keep calling me names, spreading the lies you’ve been fed, calling me a Commie, hypocrite, tree-hugger, towel-head, and all the other nice terms those right wingers love to throw around, but I’m still going to fight for you. Because you are my brother, sister, family, etc. And it really is not all your fault you have been deceived. It happened in Bolshevik Russia, Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, etc. And it’s always been the same pattern. I’m just not going to let in happen here in my beloved America if I can help it.

    So I hope someday you will understand. The good news is that your numbers are decreasing everyday. My work has been growing fruits. In 2004 about 45% of the population believed as you still do. That number is now down to a hardcore 23%. Almost half of the original people have come to realize they were played and have come around to the truth. I see it every day at work, church, community. So many have said, ‘I should never have listened to Bush, that will never happen again’. It really has been uplifting. Because about 3 years ago I was in mourning for my country. But I was patient and believed good would eventually prevail, and it’s getting better each day.

    I know that the number will never drop to 23%, because some people will always believe what they WANT to believe and never be convinced of the truth. Liz and Steph are you two going to be those sad souls? If so, then you will never prosper to the level you think you deserve, and you will always be angry at whoever is closest to be your target. And if that’s what you need, then I will be that target also, because no matter what you say, you are still my sisters.

    GNGL

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